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i don't want to kill jobs in this environment. let me make one more point -- >> let minimum answer the taxes thing for a moment. >> okay. >> mr. president? >> well, we've had this discussion before -- >> about the idea that in order to reduce the deficit, there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. >> there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. now, governor romney has ruled out revenue. >> is that true? >> absolutely. >> completely? >> look, the revenue i get is by more people working getting higher pay, paying more taxes. that's how we get growth and how we balance the budget. but the idea of taxing people more, putting more people out of work, you'll never get there. you never balance the budget by raising taxes. spain spends 42% of their total economy on government. >> okay. >> we're now spending the 42% of our economy on government. i don't want to go down the path to spain. i want to go down the path of growth that puts americans to work with more money coming in because they're working. >> yeah, but, mr. president, you're
i don't want to kill jobs in this environment. let me make one more point -- >> let minimum answer the taxes thing for a moment. >> okay. >> mr. president? >> well, we've had this discussion before -- >> about the idea that in order to reduce the deficit, there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. >> there has to be revenue in addition to cuts. now, governor romney has ruled out revenue. >> is that true? >> absolutely. >> completely?...
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. >> well, this is a tricky business because you have a coal situation and environment and all those concerns. how do you win on that argument in your state and how is mandel running that case? he seems like he's stuck with the romney idea. >> yeah, he is. and i think you win on that by, you know, you know, we've talked enough on this show, chris, and you get this better than almost anybody, that it's not liberal/conservative, left or right, it's whose side you're on. i go to belmont county and zanesville and cambridge and woodsfield and these communities in appalachia. they know i want to keep programs strong for veterans. veterans have a higher unemployment rate. we're always working on helping with manufacturing. there's a lot of small manufacturers in these small communities, and i want to make sure that these workers get an opportunity to send their kids to school. we have more coal mine jobs today in ohio than we did four years ago. it's not a huge number anymore, but it matters in our state, and we're seeing those -- i think those miners come around and support the president i
. >> well, this is a tricky business because you have a coal situation and environment and all those concerns. how do you win on that argument in your state and how is mandel running that case? he seems like he's stuck with the romney idea. >> yeah, he is. and i think you win on that by, you know, you know, we've talked enough on this show, chris, and you get this better than almost anybody, that it's not liberal/conservative, left or right, it's whose side you're on. i go to...
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technologies allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlife. america's natural gas... domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. >>> the first debate in the books, president obama and mitt romney are back on the campaign trail today. the president left colorado today and travelled to wisconsin. then on to virginia and ohio for mr. romney. mitt romney's campaigns in virginia and then florida. monday he's expected, as he said, to start filling in the policy details with the first of several speeches starting with foreign policy. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] if you had a dollar for every dollar car insurance companies say they'll save you by switching, you'd have like, a ton of dollars. but how are they saving you those dollars? a lot of companie
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and there's a lot of target-rich environment in the holes that have been offered by the ryan plan. so i think the first thing is, let's get a great vice presidential debate and reset the stage for the president to come out and get after it again. >> ed, thank you so much. we love when we can get you in here early in the morning. >> i like it. it's good to be here. i know a lot of liberals in this country are frustrated right now. this is a bump in the road. it's not a redirect. >> ed schultz, catch him weeknights here on msnbc at 8:00 p.m. he plays for politics. thank you. >>> i just want to point out we are paying attention to what's going on in denver right now with a president obama rally scheduled for 12:05. coming up in roughly an hour. 12:05 eastern time. we'll keep an eye on that. >>> we want to bring in our debate post-game power, joy reed, we have anita dunn, former white house communications director, and john baybender who served on rick santorum's presidential campaign. gang, good to have you here. julian, you were saying yesterday don't try too hard for that moment and
and there's a lot of target-rich environment in the holes that have been offered by the ryan plan. so i think the first thing is, let's get a great vice presidential debate and reset the stage for the president to come out and get after it again. >> ed, thank you so much. we love when we can get you in here early in the morning. >> i like it. it's good to be here. i know a lot of liberals in this country are frustrated right now. this is a bump in the road. it's not a redirect....
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and we have voters who really care about the environment and the economy. and president obama, his policies really appeal to those voters a lot more. it's interesting that now it's a five-point lead because for about six months, up until a week or two ago, president obama had a narrow one to two-point le lead, so that really shows that president obama is breaking out in some of the key swing states like colorado. >> we shall all be watching tonight to see how things go down there in denver. diana degette, thank you, i appreciate it. >>> up next, painting denver pink. planned parenthood launches an anti romney blitz in colorado. i'm going to talk to the organization's president. >>> plus, bringing sexy back. politico's jonathan allen says biden is number two on the ticket, but number one in their hearts. how the v.p. is winning over seniors. and you can join our conversation on facebook. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring
and we have voters who really care about the environment and the economy. and president obama, his policies really appeal to those voters a lot more. it's interesting that now it's a five-point lead because for about six months, up until a week or two ago, president obama had a narrow one to two-point le lead, so that really shows that president obama is breaking out in some of the key swing states like colorado. >> we shall all be watching tonight to see how things go down there in...
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. >> for both candidates, i want to know what to do to protect the environment from big corporates? green party. >> i have a question for romney, why not pro-life? >> he is pro-life. >> no, that women's abortions, taking away birth control -- >> oh, okay. pro-choice. >> sorry. >> those terms are shorthand anyway. >> i have a question for both candidates and i want to know what you're going to do for prisons, how to clear them out, how to lower costs that effect t affect the voters. >> do you have a question? >> i have a question for romney, gop platform states they have a moral obligation to uphold to support women who are faced with unwanted pregnancies, so since he's going to be cutting programs and sending everything back to the states, and taniff is going to be hurting and we have a lot of women who look to that when they have unwanted pregnancies. who's going to do it? is he going to step up and pay the bill? >> a lot about women's health care and a lot about student loan. everybody going to vote here? that's great. we'll be back with more "hardball." well, if it isn't mr. marg
. >> for both candidates, i want to know what to do to protect the environment from big corporates? green party. >> i have a question for romney, why not pro-life? >> he is pro-life. >> no, that women's abortions, taking away birth control -- >> oh, okay. pro-choice. >> sorry. >> those terms are shorthand anyway. >> i have a question for both candidates and i want to know what you're going to do for prisons, how to clear them out, how to lower...
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we'll see how well romney adapts to that environment. >> i'm hoping candy crowley gets more in there. she's much more political than jim lehrer. she'll say follow up on that, answer it. >> i think she will. she will be aware of all the critique of jim lehrer that's gone on. i think mark raises a very, very good point, as he so often does. the format for the next debate is a format that favors somebody who is more comfortable with people and who is a little more easy. >> can you fake it? >> well, you know, i think this is a form that -- >> can you fake it? >> i think you can fake it a little bit but not very much. i'm not sure mitt romney is going to be able to fake it. i think the president that we saw in denver the day after the debate is the president that we're likely to see in the town hall meeting coming up next time, and you're going to see joe biden unleashed, i think, in the next debate. >> that's going to be fun. >> maybe the most interesting of all of them. >> tout that one this week. biden is twice his age. he's a lot more friendly. he's almost like a big, you know, a big s
we'll see how well romney adapts to that environment. >> i'm hoping candy crowley gets more in there. she's much more political than jim lehrer. she'll say follow up on that, answer it. >> i think she will. she will be aware of all the critique of jim lehrer that's gone on. i think mark raises a very, very good point, as he so often does. the format for the next debate is a format that favors somebody who is more comfortable with people and who is a little more easy. >> can...
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president with something he's never said before or if he wants to save that stuff for a more controlled environment. that will tell us as much about his temperament and his strategy as it will about his plans. let me bring in lawrence o'donnell, chris. lawrence is in the spin room tonight, which i think has yet to begin to spin. lawrence, what do you think the expectations are on both sides tonight? >> reporter: well, rachel, in this room, there are a lot of $10,000 bets going on behind me about what the president is going to say tonight and what mitt romney is going to say tonight. i think the rules actually favor president obama because there are almost no rules. they are going to do two-minute statements, they're each going to get two minutes at the beginning of the subjects that jim leherer will introduce. and discussing not policing 30-second rebuttals and 60-second statements. none of that red light stuff with the clocks and all of that stuff. and when you're in mitt romney's position, where he's actually trying to hide some things, trying to hide the details of the deduction side of his tax
president with something he's never said before or if he wants to save that stuff for a more controlled environment. that will tell us as much about his temperament and his strategy as it will about his plans. let me bring in lawrence o'donnell, chris. lawrence is in the spin room tonight, which i think has yet to begin to spin. lawrence, what do you think the expectations are on both sides tonight? >> reporter: well, rachel, in this room, there are a lot of $10,000 bets going on behind...
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in a polarized environment. governor romney wants to be elected president because he wants to govern and get things done. he did that in massachusetts. he was able to work with a democratic legislature -- 87% of the state house and state senate in massachusetts, when he was the republican governor, were democrats. and yet they were able to cut taxes 19 times and get things done. they improved the bond rating for the state of massachusetts, by the way. they got an upgrade. we've seen a downgrade in the united states. they saw household incomes go up under governor romney's time in office by $5,000. household incomes have gone down by $4,300 under president obama. unemployment went down to 5.6% under governor romney in massachusetts. it's gone up to above 8% under president obama. he knows how to govern. and he knows how to lay out the principle, bring people together to achieve those goals in the legislative process, and that's what he's going to do here for america if he's elected. >> i understand that, but brie
in a polarized environment. governor romney wants to be elected president because he wants to govern and get things done. he did that in massachusetts. he was able to work with a democratic legislature -- 87% of the state house and state senate in massachusetts, when he was the republican governor, were democrats. and yet they were able to cut taxes 19 times and get things done. they improved the bond rating for the state of massachusetts, by the way. they got an upgrade. we've seen a downgrade...
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hear it a lot and around the network, all the other cable networks, we argue day-to-day in a war room environment. we know what each side is saying and we're always aware of the points and we know what romney is saying day-to-day. it seemed like all three people was not aware of what romney was saying day-to-day and one was well aware but he didn't want to bring it up. like nothing happened tonight in the world we were living in. >> so it was understandable that romney would be selective about which of his positions hold 'em size which he would conveniently forget and which he would, frankly, reverse in mid debate. but if you can do that, if you can get away with it, i understand why he did it. he was allowed to. >> he just said -- how does this appeal to the right wing 37 this is health care. the president says, if nothing else happens to this president we know for health care this is what he did. here's what the chamger said tonight -- if i'm elected we won't have to rephrase obama care. we'll have the kind of principals i put in place in my own state. what does that mean? >> it means from his
hear it a lot and around the network, all the other cable networks, we argue day-to-day in a war room environment. we know what each side is saying and we're always aware of the points and we know what romney is saying day-to-day. it seemed like all three people was not aware of what romney was saying day-to-day and one was well aware but he didn't want to bring it up. like nothing happened tonight in the world we were living in. >> so it was understandable that romney would be selective...
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technologies allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlife. america's natural gas... domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. it is now 11:00 p.m. here on the east coast. 8:00 out west and you're watching msnbc's continuing coverage of the first presidential debate of the 2012 election. just about half an hour ago, president obama and republican challenger mitt romney wrapped up a 90-minute debate that covered not at all a wide range of topics. limited to domestic politics. we knew tonight but basically these guys talked about sunday morning beltway show favorites like "similarson bowls" and medicare and social security but left out a lot of other big domestic issues that have been major political issues including immigration, women's rights, specific
technologies allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlife. america's natural gas... domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. it is now 11:00 p.m....
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technologies allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems... ... and protect land - by reducing our footprint and respecting wildlife. america's natural gas... domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. >>> ahead of wednesday night's debate the obama campaign is again targeting the mitt romney's record at bain capital. the campaign is deploying a group of ex-employees of companies shut down by bain. those workers are going to be campaigning for the president starting tomorrow. look here. doing so in the crucial battle ground states of ohio, wisconsin, and florida. those workers also starting in a dr star rather in a new campaign web video. take a look. >> one day we had a job, next day we didn't. >> i understand if you got to cut back bb lay off. that's part of the business. we accepted that over the years while we were there.
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. >> the environment is such that every -- every step you take, every move you make, to quote sting, is -- everybody will be watching you. it's -- everything so focus group now. we slice and dice every nothing segments, walmart moms or office park dads or whatever and you have to get them here and you have to get them there. if you get caught up in that, i think, there is a danger of losing sight of a larger pitcher and losing yourself. and i think that's what people will be watching for tonight, they don't want a pitch at office park dads. they want -- they want the candidates to speak to the country. >> but i'm curious, michael, how many people do you think are watching, not asking for an exact number, i don't think you walk around counting folks, your idea on thoughts, how many you believe, what percentage are actually watching this debate tonight to have their minds changed or to pick a candidate or are folks watching to have an amen moment from the person they have already voted for perhaps in early voting or they plan to vote for? >> i think darn few are looking who are not alr
. >> the environment is such that every -- every step you take, every move you make, to quote sting, is -- everybody will be watching you. it's -- everything so focus group now. we slice and dice every nothing segments, walmart moms or office park dads or whatever and you have to get them here and you have to get them there. if you get caught up in that, i think, there is a danger of losing sight of a larger pitcher and losing yourself. and i think that's what people will be watching for...
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imhoff head of the environment committee a climate denialist and a republican senate which could dismantle the social contract and more. >> luke, seems like scott brown has a case of the mitts that he has to trade this difficult line between conservatives, the skoo ska leah question to me was really -- the answer was weird. he seemed to rattle off the names of supreme court justices as if to prove that he knew that they sat on the bench, but wants to appear as an independent but look, mitch mcconnell is going to be his boss if he gets re-elected, a "boston globe" poll says most voters think scott blown brown is heavily influenced by the gop, 41% think he's sometimes influenced and 37% think he's independent. >> goes back to how he got elected. originally his campaign in 2010 was the democratic -- not the democratic seat, not the kennedy seat, the people's seat. that appealed to people in massachusetts who wanted to shake things up as you saw in '06 and 2010 and around the country. what his issues will be how much will he be tied to mitch mcconnell in the gop leadership. when he came here i
imhoff head of the environment committee a climate denialist and a republican senate which could dismantle the social contract and more. >> luke, seems like scott brown has a case of the mitts that he has to trade this difficult line between conservatives, the skoo ska leah question to me was really -- the answer was weird. he seemed to rattle off the names of supreme court justices as if to prove that he knew that they sat on the bench, but wants to appear as an independent but look,...
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a significant number of troops listening to my military leadership to remain there to carry out an environment where the afghan military are capable of carrying out those responsibilities. and if that is not politically possible or militarily possible, then he would make plans for a withdrawal. >> you believe a few more years might change the dynamic? >> not a few more years. additional troops, additional supplies, additional kinds of efforts that we're succeeding, that were succeeding and not now. >> the lead story in "the new york times" talks about the mistake in faith in security as seen at the libyan mission. you saw david plouffe on "meet the press" still stumbling around, calling what happened an event and then a complex event. obviously, susan rice, the u.n. ambassador, coming under fire. peter king has said she should resign. do you agree with that? >> no, i don't. >> is that overstepping it? >> i think she was the messenger. she was the messenger. >> for people that aren't following this, what -- first of all, tell us what's offensive about what susan rice said five days afterwards.
a significant number of troops listening to my military leadership to remain there to carry out an environment where the afghan military are capable of carrying out those responsibilities. and if that is not politically possible or militarily possible, then he would make plans for a withdrawal. >> you believe a few more years might change the dynamic? >> not a few more years. additional troops, additional supplies, additional kinds of efforts that we're succeeding, that were...
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it's worse for the environment, so you normally don't sell it until october 31st. they're going to try to start early. you've got people spending 100 bucks to fill up their suvs. >> wow. all right. very good. thank you so much. we'll continue tomorrow. we appreciate it. we'll be right back on "morning joe." i love this time of year. it's like its own new beginning. it's all about change. the kids are going back to school, it's the perfect time to get back to you. to do something for yourself. a perfect time to join weight watchers. you spend your life taking care of others, why not take this time to take care of you? why not join weight watchers and start losing weight and feeling good, right now? you deserve it. you just gotta believe. [ female announcer ] join now for free. hurry offer ends october 20th. [ jennifer ] weight watchers. because it works. hurry offer ends october 20th. capella university understands back from rough economic times. employees are being forced to do more with less. and the need for capable leaders is greater than ever. when you see thes
it's worse for the environment, so you normally don't sell it until october 31st. they're going to try to start early. you've got people spending 100 bucks to fill up their suvs. >> wow. all right. very good. thank you so much. we'll continue tomorrow. we appreciate it. we'll be right back on "morning joe." i love this time of year. it's like its own new beginning. it's all about change. the kids are going back to school, it's the perfect time to get back to you. to do something...
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he made some progress on the environment. but some bad things happened. the deficit got much bigger after i left. unemployment today is 10.6%. when i left it was 7%. so i like arnold, i think did he some good things. and some things didn't work out. that can be said of me, it could be said of almost every california governor. >> over the last few months we've seen major cities like stockton and san bernardino as well in california, we've seen those cities go bankrupt. what does it say about the fiscal challenges facing municipalities throughout the country? >> well i think there's a lot of challenges to cities, counties, states and federal government. the short answer is we have to learn to live within our means. i'd like to say when you go do a restaurant and you look at the items on the menu, they all look great. but we don't order everything. if we order everything, we'll die, we can't digest all that. we have to make choices, i believe if we decided to live within 95% of what the revenue brought in today we can make choices that will affect about 95%
he made some progress on the environment. but some bad things happened. the deficit got much bigger after i left. unemployment today is 10.6%. when i left it was 7%. so i like arnold, i think did he some good things. and some things didn't work out. that can be said of me, it could be said of almost every california governor. >> over the last few months we've seen major cities like stockton and san bernardino as well in california, we've seen those cities go bankrupt. what does it say...